Forced vaccinations?

There seems to be a rather unfriendly attitude towards China of late. Where does this come from? In Australia, which has done very well in its fight against the Covid-19, the suggestion has been raised to make the Covid vaccinations obligatory. And out of nowhere (or out of the blue) cries came about; ‘Oh are we going to be like Communist China now?’ To my mind to make Vaccinations obligatory by law makes a lot of sense. Don’t we have to have a license to drive a car? Air lines are hinting that travel will only be allowed on planes by people having proof of vaccinations. No jab no plane! It seems a fair exchange. I remember after being born and becoming a toddler my mum knew that no vaccination no kindergarten or pre-school. 

I think China did an amazing job of not only pulling hundreds of millions out of poverty at an amazing short time, but now also having beaten the Covid 19 pandemic.  I don’t understand this antagonism towards China. We would do well to look at the map and see how much closer we geographically are towards China than the US. We also trade very nicely with China. Let’s be realistic and be good neighbors, make friends! As for the accusation of human rights by China. Let’s look at the treatment of the Australian indigenous and our locked up refugees on Manus and Nauru!

The kettle calling the pot black!

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At the Rocks, Sydney.

Quotes by Ai Weiwei

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“You can see in the film that young people, nurses and doctors and other health professionals came to Wuhan within days on buses. China is probably the only nation that could achieve that with such speed and spirit. You can see how the state built the infrastructure, including the emergency field hospitals, and equipped those on the frontlines with the necessary rescue equipment. Those details surprised me and are a profound revelation of human behavior under authoritarian control.” 

“China, as an authoritarian state, has been the most efficient in taking on a situation as challenging as a pandemic. In doing so, China’s suppression of human rights, individual rights, privacy, and personal will has been heavy. Basically, China has consumed everyone’s liberty into its own power. That is the basic character of this nation’s fast development and how it has closed the gap between itself and the West. It has worked very well over the last 30 years.”

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22 Responses to “Forced vaccinations?”

  1. auntyuta Says:

    Gerard, you might perhaps like to have a look at this article that tells you a lot about global vaccinations and especially what China has done so far:

    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01146-0

    “China’s COVID vaccines are going global — but questions remain
    The WHO has approved one of China’s COVID-19 vaccines for use worldwide and another is under review. But published trial data remain scarce. . . .

    China’s vaccine drive
    CoronaVac and both Sinopharm vaccines are the mainstay of China’s own immunization drive, which aims to vaccinate 70% of its population of 1.4 billion by the end of 2021. China approved its first COVID-19 vaccines for emergency use in June 2020 and began rolling out doses more widely in January. , , ,”

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    • gerard oosterman Says:

      Yes, Uta. China generally is able to quickly act and for what I can tell, the benefit of its people. They don’t seem to pontificate or use the term democracy as an excuse for dragging the chain.

      It is astonishing how they are now the biggest economy in the world or close to it and having achieved that in such a short time.

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      • auntyuta Says:

        Gerard, I imagine, democracies could work very well, if people were just aiming at being as honest as possible and mostly discarded selfishness to the benefit of all mankind! But none of us is so perfect, right? They say, power corrupts. Possibly, in every system some corruption can creep in. This may apply to religious systems, to communist states, democratic states and also to monarchies.
        Well, let’s hope, some kind of peace can be maintained.

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  2. leggypeggy Says:

    I hope Australia can find a way to smooth relations with China.

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  3. doesitevenmatter3 Says:

    I have no problem with expecting people to get vaccines…most people to wear seatbelts, don’t smoke indoors in public, have gotten past vaccinations like the one for polio, wear clothes and shoes in restaurants (Ha!) etc. But, I don’t think “forced” Covid vaccines would work in most countries as some people are so adamant about not getting one. SIGH
    The Pollyanna positive person in me, wearing my rose colored glasses, wants to believe people and countries CAN get along. But, the older I get I’ve begun to wonder how wrong I am. SIGH
    On a positive note…you’re looking great, Gerard! 🙂
    (((HUGS))) 🙂

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  4. doesitevenmatter3 Says:

    Oops! I meant…most people HAVE LEARNED to wear seatbelts… 🙂

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  5. freefall852 Says:

    On this China business, I see that our pusillanimous, glorious leader has been invited to the G7 meeting to deliver an anti-China message..the irony cannot be overlooked when we have a man at head of an elitist govt’ tyrannically ruling over an elitist country of 24 million people telling a successful nation of over 1400 million people how to run their business.

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    • gerard oosterman Says:

      Yes, and the worst thing damning us in the world is how this Government is pursuing this couple with their two Australian born children with deportation back to Sri Lanka.
      Even the option of the family resettling in New Zealand or the US is being denied to them.
      What bastardy what racism by Morrison and Co.
      https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-09/child-evacuated-detention-could-biloela-tamil-family-free/100199094

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      • freefall852 Says:

        Yes..one could never have forseen the cruelty and brutality that has crept into our lives from these insidious creatures in the LNP….
        Yet the chapter on their internal, political Machiavellian intrigues is not yet played out, with Mr. Dutton playing the role of the Roman general ; Sejanus, seeking to “gain the purple” by a perverted “marriage” with the far right of the party via military connections…while Morrison plays as Tiberius..always circling the political controversies..not taking responsibility for any of them..enacting his vicious cruelty through his “agents of misery” (favourite ministers) while courting public favour via pork-barrelling and media photo-ops…
        Let us just hope that this moden-day “Sejanus” meets like fate at the hands of the self-preservating “Tiberius”…for if ever Mr. Dutton gains control, it will be even MORE mayhem!

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  6. Forestwood Says:

    Thanks for highlighting the opposing opinion to the tabloid press, Gerard. I hate hearing how it is all China’s fault and not to trust China. The pandemic is here, let us deal with it and work to end it.
    As for the Tamil family from Biloela, they seem to be making an example of them. If common sense ever prevails, they will repatriate them to another country, willing and open to accepting them and put Dutton in to detention, where he belongs. So cruel. Loved reading the analogy to Roman emperors by @freefall852

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    • gerard oosterman Says:

      Yes, The US is paranoid about losing its dominance in the world to China. But, China with its huge population and hard working ethos is of course getting stronger. I don’t know if they want to dominate the rest of the world. They just want to trade and are very successful at it.

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      • Forestwood Says:

        If I am to believe my modern history theory on communism, it will only work well if all the world operates under that system. China is softening communism and their leader told his people – it is okay to be rich, which does not really sit with communist dogma. So it may come to pass that China is the next dominant empire, but as we know all empires meet their demise after a time.

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  7. petspeopleandlife Says:

    It seems that China is dang smart because that was no easy task to get most of the population vaccinated and the virus contained. I wonder if the vaccine was made mandatory? In the USA most people not vaxxed are republicans as evidenced by stats. The red states (repubs) have the least number of vaccinated people.

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    • freefall852 Says:

      The difference with China, it being what we are told is a “totilatarian state” and it just says to its citizens..; “Look…we need you all to get vaccinated for the good of the country..now go get vaccinated and THAT’S AN ORDER!”
      But of course, in our “democratic” countries, we are told..: “Oh..sure..we’d LIKE you to get vaccinated but it’s not compulsory..so you just make up your own mind about that……of course, until we DO get a vast majority of you vaccinated, you won’t be allowed to visit granny..or she -YOU…the kids can’t go to school or YOU to go freely out and about without restrictions..if at all in a lockdown…you can’t travel or get married with all family and friends present..or bury granny..those sort of little things…but the choice is yours!…THAT’S the difference between us and a totalirian state…THEY..;compell by order….WE..; coerce by blackmail….there IS a difference..

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      • gerard oosterman Says:

        Yes, to put it in a nutshell. What do want, the risk of death or a certainty of survival and life? China seems to be doing very well.
        Tonight’s ABC 4 corners is going to be a wild one. Our PM Scott Morrison and wife have a lifelong friendship with a wholehearted supporter of Qanon.

        Question; What’s going on here?

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    • gerard oosterman Says:

      Yes, China doesn’t muck about and would make vaccinating a must. A matter of life and death. What do you prefer?
      The US and Australia use ‘democracy’ to play around with death by cloaking it in ‘choice and freedom’.

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  8. rangewriter Says:

    I agree with you Gerard. Just as I believe that mask wearing should have been mandated when it was appropriate, guns should be carefully regulated (a whole lot more regulated the Mary J). This are regulations that keep society safe. The more people on the planet, the more regulations we need. My car must pass safety and emission checks, and I’m forced to insure the car. Same for health related issues and weapons. My stupid opinion.

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