The conservative fear of the implications of ‘socialism’.

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American Conservative Union chair, Matt Schlapp was featured on the ABC ‘The Drum’. He certainly knew how to articulate his points of view, especially those held on his hero Donald Trump and in general his Republican Party. The arguments put against him by fellow participants on this program did come across somewhat paltry and weak. It just struck me that he came well prepared and seemingly knew all the answers. He said he was open to all points of view but vehemently opposed anything to do or associated with the idea of ‘Social’. I have noticed before that the word ‘social’ seems to bring out a kind of fear of a murderous Stalinist communism in some people. Mr. Schlapp and I believe his wife, Mercedes, are both of the firm belief that only Trump and his Party will bring happiness back again to the people of America.  His final words on the program was that when things are left to free market forces, problems will resolve themselves for the good of America if not mankind as well.

In Australia we have a move that seems to try and wedge people against China with some politicians barracking for the US to be allowed to install medium range missiles on Australian soil. The implication was that our choice in any conflict anywhere, ought to always be wedded to whatever the US might want to do.

We cannot change our geographical situation and are much closer to the Asian world than the West. Indonesia is rapidly growing and holds almost 300 million people which all live closer to Darwin than Darwin is to our biggest cities in Australia. With the present trade war between China with 1400 million people and the US with 325 million people, I doubt that China’s economic might will knuckle down before the diminishing US economy. Would it not make much more sense to try and stay friends with China? They are a growing nation with its own unique culture and history. But again, in Australia too, we seem to still have a fear of the ‘Social’ ideology. You know’ sharing and caring’ for people less well off, or less fortunate. I just don’t like that  we are being wedged towards choosing one against the other. We ought to stay friends with all.

With Helvi, things are improving. The infection in het left arm has healed and the plaster in her right arm should come off with a week or two. It will involve a lot of physiotherapy for another 6 months or so. We are both in need of a good break and are waiting for a period without appointments or chemo. It is amazing how we managed to get through it all which is more due to Helvi’s Finnish ‘Sisu’ than my own rather cranky demeanor.

 

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35 Responses to “The conservative fear of the implications of ‘socialism’.”

  1. freefall852 Says:

    Good to hear Helvi is on the mend….best wishes to you both..on the conservatives, I suspect they are shitting themselves about China’s “One Belt, One Road” initiative…because when it is up and running, there will be little those trading partners will require from both our nations and England….WE will be the ones out in the cold with a lot of stranded assets.

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  2. janesmudgeegarden Says:

    As ever, Gerard, your comments resonate with me. The fear of China that people in this country have had for decades seems to be gathering strength again, fanned by certain prominent people. I think the treatment of the Uighur people is appalling, and should be somehow stopped, but I also think we should be more friendly to China. It seems that it’s ok for the US and Australia to have a presence in the Pacific, but China mustn’t. Seems somewhat of a double standard to me.
    It good to hear that Helvi is doing well, though I wondered about the two of you needing a ‘good break’ having just had two.😉

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    • gerard oosterman Says:

      Yes, Jane. Hopefully we will not again get anymore breaks of the kind that need plaster.
      We had unbelievable weather in Bowral. The coldest since that last 1965 winter in Finland when temperatures went below -C30.
      We had both the reverse heating air-conditioning and gas heaters going day and night.
      I turned pale when looking at the latest bills. Electricity alone over $500 for three months.
      Is crowdfunding our answer?

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      • shoreacres Says:

        Here’s an interesting tidbit. At the current exchange rate, my electricity for the last three months has been almost exactly the same as yours — except that my dollars have gone to cooling! No big point here, just an interesting tidbit. I will confess I never thought I’d have reason to look up the USD/AUS exchange rate. The wonders of blogging!

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      • gerard oosterman Says:

        One reason for our high energy bills are that we leave heating on during the night now as well. At a lower temperature, but with the hectic coming and going to the bathroom at night we felt that a bit of warmth would not go astray.
        And that is apart from Milo at times wanting to go to the toilet outside at night as well.
        These are busy times.

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  3. berlioz1935 Says:

    Gerard, I totally agree with your summery of the Drum program with this mad man Schlapp. The people of the panel were very weak. The present in regard to China is similar to the time before WWI. The West, than led by the UK, had the same problem with Germany. Here we know, or should know, that we can’t stop China developing into a super power. Our governments should actively work on a peaceful solution.

    We hope, Helvi will further progress. Winter soon will be over and a hot and dry Summer is being forecasted with record temperatures.

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    • gerard oosterman Says:

      A Government politician compared China with pre-war Nazi Germany. I think he could have used our own Government’s ‘solution’ to the refugees on Manus and Nauru as a better example of a crime against humanity.

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  4. doesitevenmatter3 Says:

    So good to hear that Helvi is doing better and hope the progress continues to be good in every way. You both deserve a HUGE (((HUG))) for getting through so far! Whatever “method” you used. 😉 🙂 I admire Helvi’s strength and attitude, etc. 🙂 She inspires me to keep going.
    (((HUGS))) for both of you!
    PATS and RUBS for Milo!

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    • gerard oosterman Says:

      Progress on Helvi’s arms is getting better. Thank you Carolyn. We went for a good walk around the local cricket pitch called Bradman Cricket Park. He is or was world famous cricketer and many people from cricket loving countries visit this field and its associated cricket mausoleum. The people from Pakistan and India especially come here to bring homage to his legacy of playing this cricket.
      I understand the basics of the game but get always confused with so many numbers being featured. And they have a term’ going out for a duck’, which confuses me as I don’t see any ducks.
      Hugs; Gerard

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      • freefall852 Says:

        Aww, Gerard…it’s quite simply really..look, I’ll explain it for you…When you get out for a duck, it shows you’re a bit of a goose…especially if you get done in the gully by the bloke who should’ve been at silly point but then HE was sent to long off to chase that googly that got cover driven to square leg….Of course, one could always substitute the silly square leg for a deep backward square and bring in the third man of the eleven squad team to increase the slips and force the batsman to play off a back foot leg glance…but then again …THAT wouldn’t be cricket….

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      • gerard oosterman Says:

        Oh Yes, that explains it. Thanks Jo. I thought this how I understood cricket;
        You have two sides, one out in the field and one in. Each man that’s in the side that’s in goes out, and when he’s out he comes in and the next man goes in until he’s out. When they are all out, the side that’s out comes in and the side that’s been in goes out and tries to get those coming in, out. Sometimes you get men still in and not out.
        When a man goes out to go in, the men who are out try to get him out, and when he is out he goes in and the next man in goes out and goes in. There are two men called umpires who stay out all the time and they decide when the men who are in are out. When both sides have been in and all the men have been out, and both sides have been out twice after all the men have been in, including those who are not out, that is the end of the game

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      • freefall852 Says:

        Hrumph!…typical..using the practical logic of the Dutch to try to explain the eccentricities of the English language…..if you consult those that know of these things they will tell you they went ‘up” to Oxford or Cambridge universities and could be “sent down” from either if they were naughty…and then they would go “up” to London for a change..except London is south (down) from the university….so it is all rather simple when you understand it.

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      • doesitevenmatter3 Says:

        HA! No ducks to go out for! 😀

        PS…How is Milo doing?!

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  5. shoreacres Says:

    I’m so glad to hear that good news about Helvi. All things considered, a little crankiness seems a perfectly natural response. But time does pass, and soon Helvi and you both will be blooming just like your spring flowers!

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    • gerard oosterman Says:

      The cleaning has come to some grief. Twice the medication went missing. We were willing to accept a need for pain relief greater than ourselves but advice given was to not tolerate it. So, a new woman will come this Thursday to clean. In the meantime our lovely daughter is helping out.

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      • freefall852 Says:

        Well, THAT’s a reflection of the times…once it was the liquour cabinet that was most vulnerable, now it seems to be the medicine cabinet!….I guess less people nowadays have the palate for a dram of Vok “creme de methe” liqueur and more of a taste for barbiturates!

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      • gerard oosterman Says:

        Yes, Jo. A world whereby sadness seems to increase. Who would have thought the tablets would go?

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      • shoreacres Says:

        I do hope all goes better “the second time around.” Sinatra sang about love being better the second time around — I don’t know about that, but I hope it’s true for household help!

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  6. Robert Parker Says:

    Physical therapists are great – -and when people in my family had to go to phys. therapy, the regimens they were put through, were good kicking-off points for doing some exercises and stretches on their own, to stay flexible.
    I’m not sure anyone could claim with a straight face that Schlapp or the ACU, CPAP, etc. can claim to be flexible, or “open to all points of view.” Probably impossible to understand politics or cricket.

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  7. Curt Mekemson Says:

    The ‘right’ in America loves to wave the socialism flag, which in no ways curves their ardor when it comes to cozying up to government subsidies or contracts. –Curt

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    • gerard oosterman Says:

      We know that from every point of view, including economic, social democracies are a better way to progress forward. Of course the word ‘progress’ too is much feared by the conservatives.

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      • Curt Mekemson Says:

        There was a circle that was used in my early political science classes, Gerard, that I always liked. On one side moderate liberals and conservatives were close to each other, then farther apart there were the more staunch liberals and conservatives, finally, on the opposite side of the circle you found the radicals and reactionaries who have zero tolerance for democratic government unless it represents their narrow perspective and perceived self-interest. I have always been comfortable with the varying perspectives of the first four even though I come down on the moderate liberal to liver side of the coin. –Curt

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  8. freefall852 Says:

    You are on the money there, Gerard, when you say that sadness is increasing in the world…I can remember a time when a touch of humour was encouraged and embraced in times of desperation..what has happened to slapstick comedy and the bizarre antics of groups like Monty Python?….most humour I see now verges on the sadistic or mocking of a person…sad really…anyway, I’d like to contribute a reflection on those hard times and happier days with this little anecdote..:

    The Queensland Blue melon.

    Tell you what, there’s nothing in the veggie world more says “Aussie” so much as a big, blowsey ol’ Qld’ Blue melon. And there was a whole pickers bin full of them just there as we walked into the mega market in our regional city.

    One cannot but get a tad sentimental about those Blues…it always conjures up a memory of my old mum calling to one of us kids playing cowboys and Indians in the back block to : “ get me one of those melons down from the chook-house roof..and hurry up about it!”….and as you look up to see who called, you get “shot” by “Gene Autry” and have to play dead…but then you gotta get that melon or you’ll like as not get the brush on your backside!

    Personally, I now prefer the butternut pumpkin..firmer flesh and better taste..to me at least…but there you go..to each his own. Another thing I prefer over the new fads that are coming onto the veggie stalls, is the “regular” coloured traditional vegetables…now wait a minute!..wait a minute..I’m not interested in those “ancient grains” of the “Paleo diet” thingo…and those “heritage veggies” that have those weird colours and shapes..nah!, nah!..can’t come at those…I mean..: purple carrots??…black tomatoes??..and now I saw on the ABC’s ; Catalyst..purple sweet-corn!!…there oughta be a law…who wants to sit down at the table to be greeted with a technicolour salad?…what next..Insect stew!!??….chunder!..I’d rather die than be reduced to eating insects..it’s WHY we worked at improving agricultural produce..y’know??

    THIS is how it should work..The other day we’re driving home in the old Bedford truck, myself and the good woman…and there’s the horses in the box on the back..it’s been a long day and dusk is on the horizon..it is time to be thinking about dinner..

    “What’s for dinner, my love?” I ask…she looks at me through the fog of Radio National’s PM.. and thinks for a moment..

    Now hang on..stop right there..I know what you’re thinking in this age of “bugger the male and his wanting the women to cook for them!!”…it’s HER preference….The lady loves cooking..she sees the preparation of food as an art form…and I agree with her…she cooks the exotic and the hearty…we sometimes use the old German vault wood-oven for a special treat…And here I’ll say that when we were courting, I would sometimes cook a meal for her…yes, yes..I had a couple of recipes up my sleeve to pull out when wanting to make an impression…and if I may suggest to other courting men out there..a good guide to follow is ; “The Complete Middle-East Cookbook” by Tess Mallos…Brilliant!..you gather the ingredients listed and follow the instructions TO THE LETTER..you can’t go wrong…The Batchelor’s pal I called it..and I had a couple on those recipes down pat…: “Spanakopita” (Spinach pie) and “Psari Savoro” (Fried fish with rosemary and vinegar) … it always pays to have a couple of standbys up your sleeve to casually drop out to impress the lady…:

    “Look”..you say casually “ why don’t you just drop around my place tonight for dinner…I’ll cook a nice “Psari Savoro” for you…”..and you can repeat these two dishes at decent intervals and she’ll be impressed..and there’s the extra bonus of speaking the Greek or whatever title of the dish…suavo!..and then you take her out to dinner in between and…Hey!…do I have to tell you everything!!??…jeezus!..sort yourself out..

    Anyway..where was I…oh yes…she replies..:

    “Beef stew with dumplings in a Newcastle brown-ale.”…and she goes back to the iphone.

    Y’see?…THAT’S how a hearty dinner should be..that’s normal..: A long winter’s day, a long drive home, I muck the shit out of the stables, settle and feed the horses and un-pack the truck to be driven into the big shed and the lady gets our tea ready..and what’s for dinner…: A hearty Beef stew w/ dumplings in a Newcastle brown-ale…..it doesn’t get any better than that!…and you can forget the exotic coloured veggies!

    These young-uns don’t know what they are missing these days..

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    • gerard oosterman Says:

      That sounds delicious, Jo. My favourite is the old chicken curry with lots of coconut cream and with fresh coriander. Of course the chicken I use are free range thighs. There are not too many free-range thighs about anymore and only the local butcher still sells them. Local butchers are disappearing too like so many other shops, all now combined in huge emporiums.
      The pumpkin is still one of our favourites, especially when baked with leeks and onions.

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  9. Forestwood Says:

    “It just struck me that he came well prepared and seemingly knew all the answers.” – This doesn’t surprise me at all, Gerard. American politicians are well articulated and confident. That sways the hesitant voter! But they don’t wash with me. I would err on the side of China. China versus India will be the new front perhaps as the American empire slides into decline.

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  10. rangewriter Says:

    I think your cranky demeanor is all a big bluff, Gerard. But you go on bluffing. It makes you that much more interesting.

    Socialism. Social. A lot of Americans can’t even pronounce the word. It comes out sosal. The really humorous thing is that Social Security (the very words should shake any red-blooded socialism hating American to the core) is one of the most beloved institutions of the country, particularly now that the boomers are discovering how encompassing and pleasant those benefits (that they paid into) are. All my adult life I’ve been hearing dire predictions that sosal security would be bankrupt before I could draw my share of it. Wrong again, folks. Does it need tweaks? Of course. The program was not designed for many of the purposes it is now used for. And it most definitely wasn’t designed to be the sole source of funding for 100% of Americans with age spans that now require funding for upwards of 20 years after retirement. But you’ll lose your life if you try taking Social Security away from the vast number of Americans now enjoying it.

    I am mystified that anyone can support the two-faced, lying, inarticulate, fact-challenged SOB who currently sits in the White House, when he isn’t off grabbing pussies or knocking balls around the green. (Sorry. I so hate the man. He is so the antitheses of what I believe is an American.) Australia, and every other country around the globe, needs to be prepared for a world in which America has become merely a pawn of either Russia, China, or North Korea. The leaders of those countries are having a ball with America.

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