http://theaimn.com/hate-speech-not-free-speech/
“Hate Speech Is Not Free Speech!
January 13, 2015
Written by: Letitia McQuade
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After proposing then abandoning a raft of manifestly unpopular changes to section 18C of Australia’s racial vilification laws last year, certain members of the LNP have recently relaunched their attack on 18C, under the rather disingenuous pretext of championing free speech.
In the wake of the Charlie Hedbo attacks Cory Bernardi has been out there again, calling for the LNP’s precious 18C amendments to be put back on the table.
Like pit bulls with lock jaw, a gang radical right wing MP’s including Cory Bernardi, George Brandis, Dean Smith, liberal Democrat David Leyonhjelm, and Family First’s Bob Day have been lobbying hard to ensure we Aussies have the right to engage in hate speech.
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Tags: Australia, Bob Day, Charlie Hedbo, Cory Bernardi, George Brandis, LNP
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January 13, 2015 at 3:30 am |
In my opinion, this is very true: Hate Speech Is Not Free Speech!
I love funny cartoons, but I do not like cartoons that are full of hate.
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January 13, 2015 at 3:36 am |
Yes, I too think that some things are better left unsaid. I suppose the killed French journalists would agree in retrospect.
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January 13, 2015 at 4:25 am
Let’s see what they come up with next! I mean, Charlie Hebdo is going to be published again, is it not?
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January 13, 2015 at 4:50 am
A very good post Berlioz. Thanks for the link.
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January 13, 2015 at 8:28 am
Yes, Uta it will be published again but it will soon fall back to previous levels. It wasn’t all that popular.
I wonder why we don’t question how the freedom to seek asylum in Australia is being denied to those that arrive by boat.
What about their freedom?
In Germany 200 000 were processed last year.
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January 13, 2015 at 4:40 am |
The above link leads you directly to very considered article by NYT writer David Brooks.
Today they wrote this French magazine could not be published here in Australia.
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January 13, 2015 at 8:42 am |
I have no idea what’s driving you on this, Gerard – why you cannot separate your loathing of the magazine from the issue …
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January 13, 2015 at 9:00 am |
Yes, but this is not my article but I do agree with the sentiments expressed.
Australia is again at risk of Brandis getting his way by removing the 18C protection of the racial discrimination act against the likes of Bolt and A. Jones who delight in ramping up hatred and fears, especially against asylum seekers and our indigenous.
The contents of the magazine and the issue are linked.
If the issue is that of the murder of journalists. NO EXCUSE, I have stated that each time.
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January 13, 2015 at 9:10 am
Well, from my p.o.v., the issue is that of not allowing murderers to think they can get away with killing people doing things that THEY don’t like. And that’s it.
As for the tiny shit Brandis … AND of course Mr Rabbit’s jumping on the bandwagon … no words can ever describe their disgustingness.
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January 13, 2015 at 10:15 pm
And the same could be said that endless provocation also has consequences. If I tell someone at the pub his mother is a whore and I get king hit and end up in hosptal., it would not be a total surprise.
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January 13, 2015 at 9:35 am |
Until reading this I had never heard of these people. I assume they are Aussie politicians. Maybe I should rest content in my ignorance?i
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January 13, 2015 at 10:13 am |
Yes, they are Rod…politicians. A rather scruffy lot. A complaint has even been made to the International Criminal Court against a previous prime minister ( John Howard) of the same ilk as the present one.
Here cop this!
http://theaimn.com/complaint-john-howard-international-criminal-court/
Is it more dignified in the UK? At least you have Beef Eaters.
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January 13, 2015 at 1:40 pm |
A bit more dignified, though one UK party is hostile to immigration and influencing another in that direction to avoid losing votes.
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January 13, 2015 at 5:31 pm |
Good post Gerard. I am also grateful to Berlioz for sending the link to David Brooks. He is my favorite political pundit. He has such common sense.
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January 13, 2015 at 8:51 pm |
Yes. Common sense seems to be a foreign agent now-a-days.
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January 13, 2015 at 10:05 pm |
In my view, the cartoons I’ve seen from Charlie Hebdo could easily qualify as hate speech. Apparently it’s inconvenient for the powers that be to view them this way.
Holocaust denial definitely seems much milder than cartoons that mock and malign. Yet holocaust denial is illegal in France.
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January 13, 2015 at 11:44 pm |
Yes, the cartoons are hardly an invitation by Charlie Hebdo to the Islamic community to share buttermilk made pancakes and a slice of Rhubarb crumble on a Saturday morning.
Just imagine, what a difference that would make?
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January 15, 2015 at 6:53 am |
Only a few years ago France was fingerprinting all the Roma gypsies on the pretext they were (potentially) all criminals. France was being challenged by European human rights bodies over this.
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January 19, 2015 at 9:27 am
All the best Chris. Hope you are well.
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January 19, 2015 at 9:34 am
Yeah, thanx Gerard. I will be care of the Vets Repat (fri) for a couple of weeks, oil change and tune up. TT is infested at the moment, as you rightly suggest. But hey, us goodies stick together and Helvi takes no prisoners. Go Helvi!
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January 19, 2015 at 10:32 am
Hope the oil change will keep the V8 going for a long while yet. Have you made the connection between GW and Claire on TT ?
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January 19, 2015 at 11:50 am
Interesting hypothesis. I’m just going to give her (Claire) shit ad nauseum. I think Ellivas and Claire are one?
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January 19, 2015 at 8:09 pm
Yes, you are right and GW is behind them all.
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January 19, 2015 at 8:27 pm
Strange person. I remember her personal attacks on you, probably when you and I became closer, united. She’s sucked a few in, but I am ultra weary. Currently I am enemy number 1. Notice how hard ‘they’ worked to destroy me? The worm is turning. They are not that smart – like all self-loathers. Ultimately humourless.
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January 14, 2015 at 11:01 am |
Yes if only we could share buttermilk pancakes and a slice of rhubarb crumble – it would make a huge difference. In everyday life we make choices – will we say that it might hurt Joe Blow, I’m amongst friends that have the same viewpoint so I can tell that offensive joke without upsetting anyone etc etc. We make these choices based on what we know to be right and treating people with respect that every person deserves. We know we don’t have the right to go around wantonly hurting people.That includes cartoonists that go to far and those hurt by these actions king hitting, or as happened in Paris killing the cartoonists. Neither is acceptable. I believe totally in free speech but I don’t believe in vilification. We shouldn’t need legislation to stop us doing these things – our own human decency should do so but as this does not seem to work some legislation is probably needed to help remind us we are supposed to be nice. My head hurts with it all. I’m moving up a post to eat some crumble with that buttermilk pancake.
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January 14, 2015 at 9:28 pm |
There are cartoonists and there are cartoonist. One of our best is Leuning. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Leunig
Those at “Charlie Hebdo” are just naughty children delighting in farting in company. They laugh their heads off if you feel offended and declare that you have no sense of humour.
But I must add, we don’t murder farting children.
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January 14, 2015 at 9:39 pm
Totally agree. I like the farting children analogy.
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January 14, 2015 at 10:20 pm |
Yes, one would hope that once the Je suis Charlie party is over that people will take a closer look at cartoons and be able to distinquish between what is genuinely funny and insightful and those that are merely insulting and belittling.
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January 15, 2015 at 12:11 am
We can but hope.
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January 14, 2015 at 10:48 pm |
Very depressing that the wrong people… or do I mean people with bad ideas are climbing on the Charlie bandwagon.
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